The Queer Joy Podcast; two relationship therapists exploring what it looks like to see joy in queer relationships.
In this episode we talk about destabilizing the relationship hierarchy, finding pleasure in unexpected places, and creating community.
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Keely: Hi, everyone! Welcome back to Queer Relationships, Queer Joy. I'm Keeley C Helmick Melisa: I'm Melisa De Seguirant Keely: And we are hanging out today with Tuck. We're going to let them introduce themselves because I don't want to mess up anybody's names. Last name, whatever. But I do want to say we like to start the show with introducing ourselves and then Melisa and I, our intro has become shorter and shorter. Cause like you under the whole thing, go back to previous, went back and read episode, read, listen to episode one. You'll learn all the things. Um, My pronouns are they them. I am a queer gender fluid non-binary femme sometimes. Relationship status is now super single. Yeah, that's different. Yeah. Yeah. Melisa: And I'm Melisa. I used she, her pronouns. I'm bisexual, polyamorous. Solo poly; all the things. Still, still, you know, making profiles, deleting them. I'm still on that game. Tuck: And I'm Tuck Malloy. I use they, them pronouns. I'm a non-binary and trans human. And I also am a holistic sex educator. And yeah, super queer love that always been that way. But you know, it has taken many iterations in my life. So right now I live with a partner in the bay area. But I actually, right now I'm in Portland and I'm staying with one of my like life partners. Who's an important connection to me. So yeah, we're, I'm, non-monogamous poly like that also in a relationship and anarchist. So I feel like all of those terms kind of like none of them quite land for me. So I, I use them differently on different days, but yeah, I'm stoked to talk to you. Keely: Yay. We've had some feedback from listeners that were like, oh, what are the different vocab. And so for those, I would love to hear when you say relationship anarchist, what are you just saying? Tuck: Yeah. I would love to explain that because I think it's a really powerful term and idea that has also. Also been in all of our lives and lots of ways for, you know, for years like in human history, people have been practicing relationship anarchy. Because essentially it is the destabilization of a hierarchy in which romantic and sexual relationships are prioritized above all other relationships. So, yeah, that term, I think can feel good to some people and not great to other people like terms are always like that labels are always like that. But I find it to be helpful. I like the idea of if anarchy of like chaos in, and like embracing that in a productive and collaborative way, because I think thats cool and feels kind of witchy to me